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Katie Compton | The GCN Cyclocross Podcast Ep.4

Katie Compton | The GCN Cyclocross Podcast Ep.4

(upbeat music) – Welcome back everybody
I’m Jeremy Powers, and you’re listening to the fourth episode of the GCN Cyclocross Podcast. We’ve got all of the usual characters, Sands Erwin Revekin who’s not
able to make it this week, because he has fever and is in bed. We want to wish Erwin a quick recovery, and get him back on the show next week. But this week we catch up with Marty in our typical segment about all the things that
are going on in Europe, and on the channel in GCN. We talk about the European Championships, and the winners on both
sides of the continents, and the Continental Championships, and in the European Championships. We hear from Van der Poel about how his feelings
were during the race. We also hear from an
ecstatic Yara Kastelijn, the winner of the Women’s
European Championship. We catch up with Carey Werner to hear about his first
Pan-American Championship title, and then today’s interview is with the one and only Katie Compton. While many of you will
not need an introduction to who Katie Compton is, well you should know that since 2004, there has only been one winner of the National Championships of women’s Cyclocross
in the United Stated, and that person is Katie Compton. 24 World Cup victories. We’re not just talking about podiums, we’re talking about wins. Katie Compton has 24 World Cup wins. 100 in 30 plus UCI victories at almost 40 years of age, we’re barely scratching the surface on what this rider has
been able to accomplish. I hope you guys enjoy this conversation. I hope you guys enjoy this episode. If you haven’t subscribed yet, please subscribe to the channel. Like us, follow us, check us out, leave us a review wherever
you get your podcast, I really appreciate it. Let’s hop into this episode. What’s up Marty? – I am good, thank good,
it’s been a busy weekend. – It has been a busy weekend
man, it’s awesome again to be here physically
with you in the studio. We got to call both races
over the well weekend, pseudo weekend, it’s a
long weekend I guess, if you think about the holidays. – Yeah definitely, we were down in Italy for the European Championships on Sunday and then quite riders hop
footing it up to Belgium for the race from Neal, the
yarmulke cross on a Monday. – Yeah, that’s right. It was a weekend of the championships. It was the Pan American Championships over up in Canada in North America. So, the Pan American Championships. And then we had the
European Championships. And for you guys to don’t know, each of those reasons,
being in championship means that you get to where
the jersey if you win, obviously any of the categories. But the elite specifically,
you get to wear the jersey for the year. So that’s the race that we
saw Annamarie Worst win, in the European championships last year. She wore the jersey all year. And then last year, we
saw Maghalie Rochette wear that jersey all year. Changing of the tides though. This year we have some
new winners on both sides. We have on the men’s
side, over North America, we had Kerry Werner take the victory, and then we had Maghalie
Rochette able to continue on with her dominance,
able to repeat there. And in Europe, – For us, it was great
to see the junior women finally getting their race. Puck Pieterse, who we saw in Barrington, she’s had a great season, great young writer coming through. She took that first ever
Junior women’s title. Mickael Crispin, the French rider to the under 23 men’s title. Ceylin del coming down from Alvarado, still in great form
taking the under 23 women, which was again, quite
interesting because that shows that she’s kind of targeting the world’s. That she hadn’t stepped up
to elite, even though we know she’s probably capable of thinking that. And I think we had two great races. Real dominant so far. Rider of season, Yara Kastelijn taking the women’s race. But I think the elite men’s
race was one of the most exciting races I know
I’ve got to call 42 years. – Yeah, absolutely. The elite men’s race was fantastic. It was a brutal throwdown, man. Just a knockout, drag out. Literally I just going everywhere. The Belgians were putting
themselves in-between van der Poel and making sure
that there were opening gaps, even though it wasn’t like, we
wouldn’t call it mean racing. We would just call it, like,
it was proper by grazing. The Belgium’s were out in full force, really trying to use
their strength in numbers to be able to start to
take that European title away from van der Poel on a
course that was very unique. If you guys haven’t seen the race, it is over on “GCN Racing Live”. Marty and I were able to do the call, and it was a heckuva day. A unique track, singletrack,
very narrow down in Italy. – I think that’s what’s great about nisi. Different country,
different kind of courses. And when you first looked
at it, you are like, meh. It’s not too exciting, but
it gave us such great racing. I think we’ll use that in
commentary about it being narrow. And you saw the difference
between Eli Iserbyt, at his lower center of gravity,
shorter punchier rider. Mathieu van der Poel, he said afterwards, even though he took the title,
didn’t have great sensations. But as they say in days of
thunder, Robin’s racing. And going into those
little chicane sections, and you saw Vanthourenhout
and Iserbyt just trying to run a little bit of
interference on van der Poel. It was just a great race to watch. – Yeah, and we actually
have an interview in English on the post race. Let’s hear what he has to say about it. – Yeah, I’m really happy with the jersey. Not so much with the feeling. But that was quite a difficult
course to make a difference, and I’m happy that I could
finish it off at the end. – Yeah. So he will see that
he didn’t have great legs, which you know, obviously we could tell. He didn’t do the van der
Poel thing where he went off tee tee away from everybody. He was having a day of it. He wasn’t on regular form. He was happy to obviously win
at the end, but exhausted. – Yeah, and I think sometimes
we look at these races, we underestimate the
effort that he has to make. He looks like he’s cruising. But, you’ve been there. You don’t cruise the victories like that in those sort of races. The guy is just exceptional. And I think we look
back, and his dominance, and he’s not going to be there. And he’s just there to be shot at. And you saw Eli Iserbyt,
he’s getting up there. And they’re doing the right thing with him as a young rider picking the races. Keeping him fresh. Not all racing him. In the tides will turn. We’ve seen it before. It’ll happen again. What a champ. – Yeah, for sure man. Took it out. Iserbyt definitely throwing down. He is for the Belgians, they
are really pushing on him to be able to try to match van der Poel. He’s got the explosivity. He’s able to take his small frame of those big steep climbs,
pushing at huge gear, producing a ton of power. And after van der Poel
attacked, he attacked him back on the big straight section,
the big straight away in Italy. It was a moment to see. He even did the look back,
that Jan Ulrich look back on van der Poel as he attacked. It made for some excellent racing. Like I said, if you guys haven’t seen it, and then Yara Kastelijn,
taking the European champs. That was a heckuva day too. She rode, basically I
wouldn’t say pin to pin. But after a short amount of
time, she was off the front and she took the race by the horns. – She is. And she’s had a great season. Again, the writer, kind of like
Ceylin del Carmen Alvarado, where you seen steady progress. You look back to her career, national champion as a debutante, national champion as a junior. She’s been national time
trial champion as well. She’s a classy rider. And then, just being able to
benefit from that experience of bar balance, stepping into that team. And then, this year second in GP Pelt, second in Poldercross, third in heat and then got that breakthrough in harbor, then on the top of the Koppenberg. So, everything yesterday. And you saw looking at the
face of Casterline yesterday, she was on the limit. And Eva Lechner, I think. I don’t know what you think. But I think if it had been one lap longer, I think Eva Lechner might’ve got back. It’s all hearsay. But it was just over 40 minutes. I think if they had one more lap. Don’t know what you think. – It’s tough. I mean I think the racers
race what they have to race, right. They pan their effort accordingly,
and then they go forth. But I have to agree with you. If the race was one more lap, it would’ve definitely had
potentially a different outcome. There’s no question about it. So, Eva Lechner getting second place, and then the defending
champion Annamarie Worst getting third place. So, it was a fantastic race. It was really good to watch. It wasn’t a blowout. Kastelijn was pushed the entire
time by the chasing group. And so, it was a really good one to watch. But, I think Marty, the thing
that struck me the most about her when which is how ecstatic
she was on her Instagram after it was, holy bleep. How excited she was about winning it. And then we also got
this post race interview that we had to check out. – I felt that I was stronger
than the other girls, and I had the lead, then last four girls. and it’s really cool when
you race in the front because you can ride your own lines. And my coach said to me,
okay, focus on the good lines and I did, and now I’m here. (laughs) I have all my goals, actually
already from the season. Yeah, it’s incredible. Now, I will focus on the world I think. – I just love that little chuckle that she’s got in there. You just look at it, you
just heard her interview. It is great when you
have these riders getting an interview for the first
time. Especially in English. And when you see, I’ve
achieved my goals already, and you’re like, hey, I’m
going to target the world now. Party time for the rest of the season. – Dude, that was amazing. I think that for me,
personally that told me everything I need to know. She broke out her
English, her best English. She really is trying to just
tell everyone exactly how ecstatic she is, and it came
across in that interview in a way that I don’t think,
yeah, you can’t make that up. That’s just beautiful, pure elation. It was really great to see. And then come over North America, talk about that a little bit. Kerry Werner taking his first title in the continental championships. Kerry is a rider that
I’ve raised with a lot. I’ve known him for a long time. And he’s been able to slowly but surely whittle his way to the top echelon and of pro cyclocross
in the United States. Now taking his first
title, his first jersey. He’s going to be really proud
to be able to wear that. – I think it gives riders hope as well, that are 29, never give up. – Absolutely. – Keep chipping away. Chipping away, and it’ll come. – Yeah, it was a pleasure to see that. I actually got a chance
to catch up with Kerry. So, were going to dive
into that right now. Kerry Warner. – What’s up? (laughs) That is awesome to have you on man. Thank you so much for making the time. I’m sure you’re super
busy traveling a lot. And coming back, I presume from the Pan
American championships. – Yes. Currently in the RV, my
father-in-law is driving and we’re on our way to Supercross. Excellent, excellent. So you’ll be racing again this weekend. Kerry, tell us man, how was it doing your first championship, the Pan-American title? It was a strong dual with
you and Curtis White, who was the former continental champion. You guys came into it in the last lap and you are able to add
them out by a few seconds. – Yeah. Man, it was just like,
pretty nerve-racking week because I had my hopes
set on this pretty high, and coming into the race I didn’t know how the course was going to go. I knew it was going to be similar, and I knew that Curtis
was a good sprinter, and there was a big long finish straight. And so, I replayed
different sprint scenarios over in my head all week. Just like, jacking my
heart rate up in bed. So, that was on my mind. But
then I took Saturday off, which is something I usually don’t do. And I put all my eggs in the pan basket. So there was like, a little
bit of extra pressure on me to have a really good ride. And yeah, all the cards
kind of fell in the place. – Yeah dude, you’ve been
having a great season. You taken quite a few
wins already this year. Taking the C1 in Cincinnati. We talked about that little bit. But you been on the podium a lot. Again, I was saying this
is your first championship. After the confidence of the
Pan-American championships, I hate to say it, but
you’ve got to be thinking about nationals now. – Yeah, I was. I am definitely there. It’s kind of nice for me
because I’m locked in the throes this pro CX battle here in America, in the standings that that holds. And so, is kind of nice to have that. So, Curtis and I are only 33 points apart. And so, Supercross. So, Pan Am didn’t count towards that. But Supercross and then Hendersonville, the next two races all do
before nationals, do count. And so, I kind of have
to have good races there till I really solidify this
when for me in the standings. So, it’s kind of nice because
I kind of focused on that for the time being. And I’m not letting my head drift too far down the road to nationals,
which I feel I could make me a little nervous and put
a little more pressure on me than I’d like. – Yeah, yeah. You have
one in your pocket though. The other guys don’t. So, yeah, you’ll be good. Anyway, what do you have coming up? So, you have these races coming
up, Supercross in New York. You’ve got the races
down and Hendersonville, which is down south,
probably closer to your home where you call home. And then come you’re
going out to nationals, directly to Europe after that. – Yep, yep. So, Supercross is like two 1/2 hours from where I am in North Carolina. Then I get to weekends off, which is nice. I haven’t had that all year. So, that’ll be nice to get a little tuneup in before nationals. Then we fly out on
Wednesday to race nationals the 15th of December. The 16th, we fly out of
Seattle direct to Amsterdam, and where there until,
basically for two months. So we’ll stay, We’re going to say to weekends
after world champs this year and get in Holst and then come home. – Excellent. Okay. So good European
blog going down there. During the euro champs
we were talking online. Sounds like you will go to
Spain again, do a training blog. To try to get want to resend
the going to the world championship with some good form. – Yeah. Last year it was a first you that. Stephen Hyde, kind of was like,
hey man, you should do this. So, we took off while
everybody else raced nationals, and I skipped to the first World Cup too. So, I had a good solid two
weeks of training there. It was a big motive, kind
of rejuvenator mentally and physically before worlds. – All right. I love it, I love it. Any celebratory plans for the Pan American championships coming up? I know you got a lot of racing coming out. But you got is here is this moment, man. You guys are heading back home. You’re heading to New York. You’re back in the United States. Is there any celebratory
things going on for you guys to celebrate the accomplishment? – Well, definitely looking
forward to getting that jersey. That’s like, the custom
team Pam-Am jersey. But I’ve been sleeping in
the one I got the race. And trying to get to these, This first race or these next two races. Then we have off for Thanksgiving, and then we can have a little family, friends get together and celebrate. – I’m sure everyone’s super pumped. I’m sure your family, your
friends, your sponsors, everyone’s super happy for you at GCN. We all want to say congrats and great job. We looking forward to
seeing you at nationals, and then over in Europe. – Yeah, thanks a lot. Yeah, I’m stoked. – Awesome man. Well, thank you so much
for the time today, and we will talk to you soon.
– All right, thanks. – Always good to catch up
with Kerry, and so great to be able to hear that he’s on top of the moon. Just a really cool thing. His team has been tearing
up at the KONA program as you heard, just great,
really great program. They been doing a lot of stuff over there, and I have to say, I was
really happy to see him be able to take the win.
– Yeah, it was great. And he was just awesome to
see Maghalie getting in there, getting a title again, defending that. I was really lucky I got
to interview her many times last year in our cyclocross coverage. She was great with her time. She did are women’s forum. And you have a little bit of pride. When she wanted first World Cup, she’s having a great season. We were all like, kind of, yay. – Yeah, I guess last week on the show. Hopefully you guys got to know
more about Maghalie defending that Pan American champs jersey,
continuing to have a season of domination has been fantastic to watch and see her success as well. So Marty, what do we have coming up? Because we been doing a lot of coverage on the “GCN Racing Live”. – This weekend we go
back to the UCI Telenet World Cup from Tapo. That’s very restricted
territory unfortunately. We’re working on that. Keep subscribing to the channel. Keep watching. The more videos we have the
more covers we can bring you. And they were that were
around two of the DVV trophy from Hamot on Sunday. And again, that’s worldwide,
just excluding Belgium and the Netherlands, because as we know, cyclocross is probably the
biggest thing in Belgium. So we don’t get those. But make sure you tune with us
on Sunday for DVV round two. – Awesome. I’m really looking forward to
commentating with you, Marty. Thank you so much for your time today. – Thanks. It’s been fun having you alongside me. – Yeah, it is. And were going to do this a
lot more. All right, see you. What a good conversation
about all of the championships that happened over the weekend. Some fantastic racing in the
men’s side in the women’s side. Great to see some new faces
getting to where those continental championship and
European championship jerseys for the next year. So now it is on to the
interview with Katie Compton. And while she won’t need an
introduction to many of you, we don’t want to miss an
opportunity to talk about also she actually is. If you don’t know, Katie
Compton has won the national championship title for the
elite women since 2004. That means, there is not another rider that has won the national championships, although there have been some
great battles since 2004. 15 times consecutively,
she has been able to win the national championships
of the United States. She’s also won 24 world cups. All means he’s made
appearances on the podium. No, she has one 24 world
cups during her career, and she’s amassed over 130 UCI victories, which is more than any male or female from the United States. No one has had 130 UCI victories, and that’s barely scratching the surface. Before, she was a cyclocrosser, she raced as a Paralympian
and helped a blind rider win multiple world and Olympic titles. She’s been a fantastic
personality and a force to be reckoned with on the bike. The pleasure to welcome
Katie Compton to the show. (upbeat music) Okay, so I’m here with the
15 time national champion from United States, Katie Compton. Katie, thank you for being on the show. – Thanks for having me. – Yeah. I also have down here, some other things. You been five times on the podium at the world championships. Four times, second place. – Yep. (laughs) – There’s also a third-place in there. – There is a third place. – You remember all four the second place for championships.
– I do. Yeah. I remembered two of
them being pretty happy, two of ’em being pretty disappointed, and the bronze being really disappointed. But that’s worlds, right. Sometimes you feel really good
about getting on the podium, and then some days, you’re like, I wish I would have done better. It is what it is. – Your first one was in
2007 in Hoodlede, Gits which is in Belgium. There was a big race. Jonathan Paige also got second there. – And then Danny Summerhill was
also second for the juniors. – United States was going. – We were good. 2007 was
a good year for the US. – That race is like, really long time ago. – It feels like it. – So, that’s something
that I want to talk about, just reminds that now, ’cause it’s 2020. That was 2007. – Seven.
– So many things have changed. You won your first title, 2004, I believe? – Yes.
– Your first national title. – Yeah. First National, 2004. – So, that 16 years ago. – It is. – Just curious of your mindset now, because a lot has changed. – My mindsets always been about the same, because I love racing my bike. I love competing and I love cross. It’s like one year at a time
where I feel like I grow and develop as a person. And obviously, I’m getting
older and I’m learning. But, I still feel like
the first time taking the start in 2004 when I’m just like, butterflies in my stomach. I’m not sure how this is going to go, and excited for the racing. Even at Koppenberg yesterday, Katie and I were at the start,
still nervous and be like, this is going to be a hard day. Like, you still have those race feelings. And I love the fact
that from 2007 till now, I still get the feeling
where I want to race my bike. I’m excited to be on the start. And I’m going to miss
that when I’m done racing. I’m getting towards the end of my career. So, every time I take the
start, I’m appreciating the fact that is getting close to
not doing this anymore. – Yeah. I remember that very, very well. I remember, kind of my last year knowing, okay, appreciate these moments. Appreciate atmosphere, the
people that I’m able to meet, try to make the most of it. Just recently, I think
in Barrington podium again in third place. – Yeah. – That is a long time later. But you’re still with women half your age, punching it out for the victory. I think it special. I think it’s something that
we’re seeing Katerina now. She’s also showing that
she’s able to do that. Marianne Vos, riders that you had great vows with over the years. We’re excited for that first podium finish and your up this year? – I was. Just because the podium is just getting harder and harder to get onto,
especially as I get older. Yeah, racing against girls
that are half my age. I try not to think about it too much. But then when I realize
how much energy they have, and I was like, oh, that’s right. I used to have that energy. (laughs) I used to recover really
quickly after a race weekend. And now I’m like four
days later, I’m like, I feel like I’m still sore. (laughs) Why has my hamstring been hurting
for the last three months? So yeah, I’m dealing with that stuff. But also, I really like, it was fun being on the
podium and it’s also fun being at the front of the race again. Last year was a tough year, because I feel like I was
sick the entire season. As soon as I got better, I got sick again. So, I was never in a place
where I could train properly, and I was trying to like, As soon as I’m a little bit of progress, I’d have more setbacks
and so, I don’t know. It wasn’t something I
put out there, really. Every once, I put a Instagram post maybe. But, I struggled a lot without actually letting people know how bad it was. – Verbalizing it. – Yeah. ‘Cause sometimes you’re
like, nobody wants to hear negative all the time. And I still raise my bike and enjoying an amazing lifestyle. So it’s like, how much
can I truly complain? I was a struggling last year, in this you’re getting on the podium and starting to feel better racing towards the front of the race,
feeling like my old self. That definitely makes me happy. The struggle, we all go through it. But, enough’s enough. (laughs) – Yeah, totally. You’re just tired of it. – Even back when I was having
problems with like, diet. We’ve had long conversations. Bike riders getting serious
illnesses from who knows what. – From who knows what, yeah. – Mud maybe things. – Well honestly, that’s legitimate. Like, we’re riding through goose (beep). Like all the bacteria that
they carry and riding on roads that are covered with
manure from animals on the farm. – Not that far off. – Not that far off. I’ve had enough bacterial
infections and viral infections, and be like, where did I get that? Last year, I had a cytomegalovirus, which is like a virus you get from cats. I don’t even own a cat. I’m never around cats. I’m like, how? It kicks your butt. But I’m just like, where
did this come from? I don’t. But I got it. (laughs) – That’s it. I had the same thing. I had some type of pylori. I had all kinds of things in my stomach. – You’re like. – We had to eradicate. You don’t think it ;cause you’re like that’s not the problem. Something’s bigger going on. But then you get rid of it, you’re like, I feel really good now. – Yeah, after you get
through the antibiotics. If you hesitate antibiotics,
which then kick your butt too. And so, just like, I feel
like antibiotics helped. But now I got to recover
from taking those. And now it’s eight weeks
later and I’m like, I got a lot of catching up to do. And the older you get, the
harder it is to catch up. You just can’t catch up in
December for January cross worlds or February cross worlds. You’re just like, ship
has sailed. (laughs) And I’m not on it. (laughs) – Well, hopefully you
catch it at the next port. – I know, right. If I could run fast enough to get there. – You could become a good swimmer. (Katie laughing) No. (laughs) – So yeah. So, let’s jam into that. Because you famously
had some highs and lows. The leg cramps were a big deal early on. You mitigated or affixed
to those for the most part. – For the most part. I have to be on top of my
nutrition in my recovery and just the right training for me. But I now have leg pains, very rarely. And I reduced it to me
be, once every two years. And they’re not as bad, so it’s definitely under control. – Cool. And one thing that I know you
from you from being a friend, but also from listening
to podcasts and interviews with you, is that you
are a big self educator. Just love to know what the motivation was. – Well, for that is I
have a bachelors degree in exercise science. And when I was in school, I was like, went to pre-PT, I did exercise physiology. I switched exercise science
to like a business minor, Better chance of finding
a job in sports (laughs) when I graduated. But I really love physiology, and I love that the human body. That’s just something
I’ve always been drawn to. Even now, have my Instagram
is full of medical stuff just because I find it interesting. But I think I kind of made it super easy for me to research things
and to study things and to figure out, well, I’m
feeling all these things. What could that possibly be? And obviously, everything you read online, you got to make sure it’s for the source and not to surrender website
that like, that’s what I have. But learning about a variety of things, and from nutrition and
proper training in recovery. And then, who allergies and
just the way the body works. I’ve always enjoyed learning about that. So, when I’m having health issues, I know my symptoms the best. It’s hard to explain to a doctor maybe. I know how I’m feeling. I know what’s going on. So when I can read
through studies of things, I can be like, yes, yes, no. Absolutely. I can eliminate things real easily. – I did the same, I do the same. I felt like that was a big part of it. Was like, just simply doing
something like an elimination diet was really good practice. We’ve talked about histamine diets. We’ve had has about all kinds of things. – Yeah. And sometimes they work
great, sometimes not. – Sometimes they work or they don’t. – Yeah. Anybody changes every time. The older you get, your digestion changes. Things change and you have to be willing to kind of work with that
and have the ability to grow and be like, you know
what? That’s not working. I need to try something else.
– New constraints. – Yes, exactly. – Totally. – And now, I’m pretty dialed in. And as long as my allergies are good, in my immune system is
and kind of overactive, what I think it was for quite a while, I can drink wine now. I can have more histamine
foods and be perfectly fine. Whereas last year in into
years ago, I couldn’t have any. I had to be real careful. – I agree.
– It’s a balance. – I go through phases too where it feels like there’s
times when I’m just like, yeah, I know this is a high histamine food and I’m getting stuffy after I eat it. Or if I do this thing because
there’s something else that’s high, there’s
something else that’s outside. That’s bike racer life. – It is.
– You’re very fine line. You’re paper thin. You got a lot of things going on. – Yeah. – What is your diet like today? – No. I eat a low histamine diet
still, just ’cause in the season. But mostly, I just can’t
have wheat and rice. So, since with my grass allergy, Rice is in the grass family. So when I’m in an area like
Belgium where there is a lot of grass feels they were racing
through, I got to be really careful about staying away
from any grass related food. So that’s pretty much all
carbohydrates, mainly. Besides, camomile, buckwheat and potatoes. So those, heavy and those carbohydrates, and then pretty much meat
and veg, healthy fats. So, it’s pretty much, it’s a whole diet. I would say it’s more like a paloe diet if you want to call it something. But it’s eating healthy whole
foods and nothing processed. Making sure there is no folic acid in it. – That’s right, yeah. – Let’s talk about, we were talking about Belgium grass. So let’s talk about you
being one of the only riders that’s made it here, really. I mean, truthfully from the United States. There are so few. Jonathan Paige is on that list. I did time here, but I never lived here like you did, full time. At least I did, I did one season here. – It’s hard. – It’s so hard. So, I’m just curious about your, what makes it work for you? – You got to have the support network. We’ve stayed with the
same family for 11 years and they were amazing. Is a Belgium family. Lived in a beautiful place for training, just north of Antwerp. But they helped us at the races. The kind of helped us learn a
culture and learn the people. And just like, the local guy that you have when you ever go to any foreign country, it just makes everything easier. So, that helped a ton. And then having Mark
with me too, my husband. Doing this as a couple
and doing it together, and having that support that’s
100% there all the time, makes a huge difference When you’re living away
from home, two, three, four months at a time in
a different environment with a different language,
it helps to have your partner making things easier and then family to go home to, technically. And in the longer I’ve been here, the more I get accepted
by the other racers. And I’ve noticed I get a lot more respect for being here and doing it,
kind of like week in, week out, instead of flying in for woke-up, in and out, in and out. So I think last year and
this year, Mark and I have definitely noticed a change. And just people are
just excited to see us. They’re chatty. It’s a lot more social kind of. You’re part of the traveling
circus instead of just looking at it, like
wanting to be part of it. But just outside of the circle looking in, like being jealous. Like, feel like I should
fit in, but I don’t. So now, I’m starting to fit in. – We jammed with earlier
in the summer time. And he had said something
that stuck with me that I was really surprised about. I knew it always. Just the way he said it,
really stuck with me. Is that this is a family sport. In Belgium, a lot of the riders have their family there helping them. I’ve always known that,
you know what I mean. – Oh yeah. – But in a way that I hadn’t
thought about it before, it’s almost like it’s not an option. You need to have your family
– The family. to be able to have success
in the sport in Belgium. – I was a yes to that. There definitely. Because going to race,
you can’t do it alone. Even now, we’ve got, the family helped me
and more for 11 years. And luckily, we’ve been
able to meet people who help us at the race now. But I still have Mark
and have another suanure. And then sometimes her
daughter helps us in the pit or her husband helps us in the pit. It’s still like you need
to make those contacts so you can, when you’re
down to two people, you can be like, hey,
can you help us today? And it’s something as simple
as giving podium flowers. You have a good day. Or like a thank you, or
cash to buy some coffee. Like something, just like some
sort of gift as a thank you for helping me out. But having a family that’s
going to be there weekend in and out, and enjoy being
in the cold rain and mud, and help you nearby
excellent it’s 40 degrees out and raining and cold, and
all you want to do is go in and have a cup of tea
and (laughs) roll ’em up. – Crawl and lay in a, – So there is something
to be said for that. That and it’s expensive too, ’cause you’re paying helpers
that are your family. You’re paying them a day rate, really. So, that adds up to. – Let’s talk about Mark. He’s here with you, been here with you. He is definitely essential to– – Essential, for sure. – How you been able to
be here for as long, I think we can say right now,
prerequisite to having success would be to have some family–
– You have to have a mechanic. – Yeah. – But you have to have
family there with you too. I think you have to be in it with someone. Having done it alone, it’s very lonely. – It’s very lonely. You need to be able to share
those moments, good or bad, together.
– I want to ask about that too. – It’s also, if I have a
bad day or even a good day, we can talk about the
positives and negatives and go through it. And Mark can point out good things. You know, everything is negative. Well, it wasn’t all bad. You did this, this and this right. And maybe you learned this. And a good day, he’s like, yet was good. However, (laughs) there’s something you could have done to be better. And so, it’s good to have
an outside perspective, and it’s also good,
honestly having a bad day, is like to share that with
somebody to help you feel better. And if you are alone, you kind
of wallowing in negativity and there’s nobody to bring you out of it. And then, is a short day
with rainy gray skies and you’re like, If you’re constantly day
in, day out getting sadder and sadder, it’s hard
to get out of that hole. I think you be successful
here, having a partner it could just be your best friend, or like a mechanic who understands you. Somebody that you can kind
of lean on to for support when you’re having a downtime. It makes it easier. – Just a backup. Mark is Katie’s husband. So, for anyone that doesn’t know, – That’s clear. – Has there ever been times
when you guys are just sitting in the car and not saying
anything for a while? – Oh, for sure. – I just think people are probably like, ‘Cause I’m just trying to think. You guys do so much together,
you live through it as well. I mean, owning a team. I was able to feel like that as well. You guys must have a totally different relationship that other, you know. It’s not a casual. I don’t go to work with my wife. – No. And it’s a funny thing. It’s like, Mark and I,
since the day we’d met, we been able to hang out
together all the time without disliking each other. And that’s unique to us, I think. And we bicker. Anybody who’s spends any time
with us knows that we bicker to the point that were
like, we don’t even realize that we’re doing it. We’re just like, our friends
are getting uncomfortable. Are you guys going to stop fighting, because I don’t know what side to pick. (group laughing) I’m like we’re not fighting. We’re bickering. We’re getting it all on the table, because if you let it fester
when you’re around each other 24 seven, that’s what having issues. Yeah, Mark and I definitely
have our moments. And we definitely have the
quiet time in the mobile, and usually because we’re
listening to podcasts. And so, sometimes one
of us will frustratingly just saw the podcast and
like, are you done talking? ‘Cause quiet time so we can
listen, or are you going to talk? One or the other. But I can have the
podcast and you talking. So. And we’re okay with that communication. Like okay, I’ll. Be like that’s enough, and
he’ll say the same thing to me. You done? ‘Cause I’m over it. And sometimes, I’ll be driving to. And I’ll ask, what you thinkin just because I know how annoying that is, to be like enjoy quiet
time is already asks you what you’re thinking. (group laughing) So, it’s one of those (beep) each other. (man laughing) Now I’m not going to answer
any questions. (laughs) – That’s amazing. So, where in the middle
of the cross he’s in now. And I’m just wondering what you have on your mind for this year. You’ll make one trip back to the US for the national championships? – Yeah, we debated on going back to Canada for Pan Am champs. But mainly, the older
I get, the more I don’t want to deal with jet lag. I just got over here and settle, and I’m starting to feel good. And I don’t want to head to Canada and there with the time change. Granted, it’s only six hours. It’s not that big of a deal.
But, an international flight, chance of getting sick a lot. It’s only 100 UCI points. And I’m just like, I don’t
know if it’s worth it. So, I decided to stay here. I’m going to race the world cup series in most of DVV races, and then a couple single races here and there,
depending on how I’m feeling. I come back after * world cup. And then we’ll have about
two 1/2 weeks at home depending on when, how much we’re in Washington for nationals. And that’ll be a quick playback
because between nationals in Mark five and a truck
and trailer back home end implying how to race
in the the (mumbles) the next weekend, it’s going to be tight. I just hope that there is no
snowstorms in Montana, Wyoming. In December, like fingers crossed. Mark can actually drive straight through. – Yeah, so you’ll go for
your 16th national title. Have you ever raced at
the track that it’s been– – I have, yeah. You were racing it? – Yes. – I didn’t know if you had though. – Yeah, Silacom. – Yes. I do remember that part. Because I think it was like 2007 or eight season for US GP. And I loved it. It was a fun park. I really enjoyed it. It was a great experience. I like to race weekends. I’m hoping it’s just as good. – Getting back to the Pacific northwest for the national championship
is going to be fantastic. – It’s going to be great. – You’re the first American
that I’ve had on the podcast. The only. – The only. – Yeah. So, – Talk about nationals. – So, the old US GP with
our series that we had that run for maybe 2003
through 2006 or somethign. Seven.
– No, it was eight I think. – Eight, okay. So yeah, it was five, six years. Something like that. But it was very. It was the most prestigious series that I believe we ever had. And yeah, a lot of these
venues that are not prehistoric venues in the United States,
and I were using one of them up in this Pacific Northwest
the national championships. So, it’s going to be exciting. – It is. – Pretty exciting times to back up there I feel that
we’ve neglected that area. It’s such a good area for
cyclocross because it’s so wet. – I’m looking forward to it. It’s going to be. I’m assuming it’s going
to be another muddy race, kind of like Portland was in 2004. My only issue is the fact that
it’s a nine hour time change. – Big time. – And it’s a big travel,
the point I’m just like, I get nationals on the West Coast. We need it. But as a self bike racer, I’m just like, I’m like, really. Can’t we do it on the East Coast? (laughs) A little closer to Europe? And that’s selfish. I’m just as an athlete,
and I look at Katie Ceo. They did say what a handful of
us that were going to come back over to Europe. – Making it a little easy.
– It’s unfortunate for us. There’s like five hours out
of how many thousand racers are going to be at nationals?
So, what do you do? – It’s important though. – It is. – That’s the reason that it
hasn’t been there I think. – I think it is, yeah. – It is nine hours. – It is.
– And is a massive ask. – Having flown directly from LA to here, it’s like, it just was, it’s a lot. – It’s a lot, yeah. – It’s an 11 hour flight.
– Yeah, it is. It is just to point your legs. So. But generally, those kind
of flights we upgrade to business class for ’em. At least I do. You almost have to. And honestly, I was I was
we’re taking nowadays. Even on the flight about them, Mark upgraded us to
business, and I was like, oh, Mark we don’t need to spend the money. He’s just like, yeah, you do. Because you got to hit the ground running. We don’t have time to not be rested when we land in Belgium. And I was like, okay. But then I was, When we were checking in for the luggage, we would’ve spent $600 on luggage fees or $500 to upgrade to business class. And I’m like, messages save money by upgrading to business class. So. (laughs) – That’s literally the exact same thing– – At the check-in counter
she was like, well, actually. The fact that you guys
upgraded to business, you didn’t have to pay these fees. so, I was like, we actually got something for our money for the first time? So, next he worked out great. So now, looking at the
letters that were taking over, I’m going to constantly
look at like, okay, what’s the breakeven for cost? – That’s the way to do it. So, let’s talk about you coming back and then there’s the world championships. Must be still on your mind. I love to know what your goals are for the rest of the season. But also for the rest of your career. – What are the ones that you want to like, What is the one that you
really want to die happy with? – I love to win world’s at some point. But now I’m to that age
where I’m just like, whoo. I don’t know. You’re past your prime. Definitely past my prime. I look back, and I’m
like, I remember a key four to five years where I just felt good. I could train, I could
race, I could travel. I just kind of felt
invincible as an athlete. And I don’t feel like that anymore. So, I’m definitely starting to
be like, counting the years. Be like, it’s eh. (laughs) Might be a little bit late. But I’m still going to
go all in for Switzerland because it’s a player race. Chances going to be muddy. It might be snowy, but it
could be a good course for me. So, I’m just like, you know what, I got second at * last year. It was a muddy race and it
wasn’t a great day for me. And everybody was there. I’m just like, you know, you never know. It’s possible. – Absolutely. That’s everybody’s race there. – Yeah, exactly. So, I want to do everything I can. I’m going to try to do
the preparation to be able to ride fast and strong through the mud, and just work on the technical bits too so I can have a good day and we’ll see. – Let’s talk a little bit about
something that’s interesting it’s going on right now. And that’s the switch to the UCI calendar. I would just tell your opinion on that. What do you think about, Let’s make this a little bigger question. Where this word is that
with the women right now, because it’s really, I think
it’s in a beautiful place. In my opinion, it’s grown. – It has. – Let’s start there. – Yeah. And that’s also
a part of the reason why I want to keep racing. Because when I was in my prime, we didn’t have the subcontracts.
We are now the prize money. We didn’t have the race instruct.
We didn’t have the video. Like, there’s so many good
things about women’s bike racing now that I was like to be part of, I wish, I wish we had 10 years ago. But now the see a growing
develop and get into this point where we’ve got so many strong women at the front of the race. The talent pool is pretty deep. The racing is dynamic. We’ve got a different
podium every weekend. The prize money is better, and the start contracts better. I feel like now, we’re
finally getting the respect we’ve kind of been fighting for. So, I kind of want to be part of that. And then I know Katerina
says the same thing. And then even talking to
Eva Lechner yesterday, she was saying the same thing. We’re getting older, but we
want to be part of how great women’s crosses right now. – The road you guys paved. – Yeah, exactly. So, it’s fun to see. And it’s also fine to see how great the younger women are doing. Like, they’re good technically
and they’re strong, and their mentally strong. So it’s like, we’ve got
all the trades you need to be good bike racer, whereas
I think when I was racing, we had somebody who was
like, really good engine. Don’t have the technical skills. Really good skills, don’t have the engine. Maybe not as mentally strong
in the back conditions. There wasn’t. You did have some a rider
that had all of the trades. And now we’ve got, 10 riders at the front who can do all of it,
which I think is awesome. – Yeah. It’s viable now. It is viable to be a
cyclocross racer primarily for the women, where it was for the men. But it was not really.
– Not for the women. – You had the race mountain bikes. You did road stage races. You had to cobble
together different things as did a lot of riders coming up. You work for a ton of different programs. – No, we all do. Because like, Just when you think you’re confident in your sponsorship dollars,
the contract runs out in their like, you know
what, we may have said we wanted to do this again,
but we don’t have any money. So, good luck finding something else. Intercostal he scrambling. And that’s just the bike world. There is not a ton of kind of
confidence in the fact that, or security I guess in the next contract. Even if is like an
unspoken yeah, we’re good. Unless it’s written on paper. – I think that the woman’s
raising now is so compelling that I don’t think it’s going away. – I don’t. – And I don’t think this is a peak. I think you guys are here to stay. Over the last couple of seasons it’s been incredible racing at the front. – It’s only getting better. – And I think that that’s a, it’s more than viable. It might even be better
than, I dare to say, sponsorship opportunity
for a potential investor. – Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Especially with the goods he
recovers a woman’s raising. Everything is improving. It’s a great time actually. Especially any sponsor that’s
like a woman specific sponsor would be amazing to come on at this time. For any of the teams, or even just sponsoring
the races, whatever. But the women are putting on
a show and it’s fun to watch. And even talking to people at the races, people that have always
come for the men’s race, were just like, we
actually like the women’s race better now. And they
don’t want to say it. They’ll say it to the women. You can say that out loud. It’s okay. By gracing ebbs and flows,
and where there’s been a real big push to
promote the woman’s racing because it’s exciting to
watch if you can watch it. But people haven’t been able to watch it. And so they don’t know. And now they know what they’re missing, and now they’re like, I like
short intense hard races, compared to the men’s racing, like world championships
this year, seven hours. Really? We need to watch them
race for seven hours? Probably not. I mean granted, that race was pretty epic. It was, I had it on. But I definitely didn’t watch it. I popped in, in and out to
see it and then be like, I cannot believe these guys are racing in these conditions for seven hours. I would’ve cracked five 1/2 ago. (laughs) – Yeah, that was the same. – It was insane. – Well, that’s the good
thing about cyclocross, that we figure it out in
an hour or just under, – And it’s perfect, and it’s fine. And it’s like, okay,
I’m cold and wet enough. You guys can wrap this up. – We wrapped it up. We figured it out. It was chess versus checkers. It was easy. – Exactly. So then, you think about
the internationalization of the sport, the women
coming up doing really well. You are a part of that. You’re actually living in it. You really are in like perfect
time for the sport to be, – I wish I was seven years younger. But yes. (laughs) – I’ll give you that. But we can’t have everything. – Can’t have everything. No, no. (man laughing) – So, what you think about the calendar? That’s my second part of that question. Is what do you think is happening, and what would your opinion
be? I mean, you sat. We, also set on the USA cycling committee. We currently do. – Cross commission. – On the cross commission. And you sat with UCI meetings. You’ve been on the board as
an athlete representative. What do you see now? What is your opinion of what’s happening? What would you do? – It’s a tough one. A 16 race World Cup, I
think it’s just too much unless you’re committed
to living in Belgium, which the racing is great here
in the competition is great. But if you can afford to live in Belgium, which most racers can
afford to live in Belgium unless you know somebody,
you have a place to stay, you got a national Federation
like a service course you could stay at. But if you think about,
you’re changing your life for so many months to be there. Not even bringing in the visa
issues with being able to stay in the country for so many
more days than you’re allowed depending on where you’re from. But also just think
about the money it costs to have a life set up in your own country, and then
you’re moving that for four months to try to raise the world. Because I don’t think you
can travel back and forth. So he’s got a lot of
races that are going to be hard for everybody to do. But not only that, you’re taking
away from the other really strong race series that the riders should actually make money at. Between the DVV series
and the Super Prestige, riders make money in those overalls as well as their start contracts. So, if those races don’t
have a spot on the calendar, because the World Cup is
taking over everything, it’s going to hurt those
series, and I don’t think that’s good for this word. It kind of makes it where
the only people that can go to world cups are literally
the top 20 in the world if they can manage to get there. But what if they can’t? What if they can’t afford it? and so, you’re not reducing the pool from international pool. Now it’s a Benelux country
world cup, where only say, Belgians, Dutch, French the token Swiss or Luxembourg writer can show up. They can get there on the weekends. Maybe they’re driving out
from their house in racing. But people in the US, people traveling from Aussie, New Zealand. Good luck growing the
sport outside of Belgium and calling it a World Cup. – Yeah. That second part is the
most important thing. It is not. – Exactly. It won’t be. I keep
comparing it so it’ll be like in our American baseball. We’ve got a World Series
that has one country in it. And we got an American
football that again, has Super Bowl with one country in it. So it’s like, you can
call it what you want, but unless you got a variety of countries, is not a World Cup. Even if UCI is cracking down on the C1’s international competition and
you have to have 10 different countries for a C1 now. A World Cup isn’t going to
have 10 different countries. So that doesn’t even read
C1 status now? (laughs) – Yeah. 16 is a big difference to. Not past 16. It’s a lot. – It’s a lot. I love to go the sport. I would love to see, like, they want to compare
to Formula One racing, you got what? 18 races. I’m not sure how many actual
races Formula One has. But for the world champion,
it’s all the races. It’s a constructors
championship for the teams. You know, team championship as well as the driver championship. And that’s awesome that
you can follow those races through the whole season. If we adapted something like that, but we’re not raising World
Cup every single weekend. Maybe 10 races from October first, through January 31st or something. Maybe spaced out but
more international like, and then calling that person
the world championship like Formula One dies. That would be kind of cool. – Sure. There’s a lot of things. Currently though, the
way it’s been brought up, is just not, I don’t think, With the proposal of having
16 World Cup grounds, it’ll be interesting to
see what comes out of that and what they decide to do with it. I’m not a fan, initially. But, hopefully they surprise us. – I know. Same thing. I don’t want to be instantly negative, and instantly, no, it can happen. Well, that’s pretty close minded. A part of me, my initial reaction, the guy reaction when I saw it, I was like, this isn’t
going to work. (laughs) – Yeah, exactly. And I’m like, okay, step back. You can’t just say it’s not going to work. You haven’t tried it yet. So, I’m open to trying it. But I hope, if they can fix it, they can tweak it, they can adjust it as
needed to make it work. If they’re willing to be like, this is what we have to start with. If it doesn’t work, we’re going
to change it until it does. That, I’m okay with. – Yeah, I agree with you. Yeah, this stuff takes an open mind. And hopefully the writers are
able to have a say through the designated people that are there. – I hope so. I just don’t know if anybody’s
going to listen to the riders. It seems like everybody
who made this decision didn’t talk to the writers. – No. I would agree. – If Sfen wasn’t happy with it, I mean, I feel like Sfen is somebody who does talk to the writers. He also talked to UCI. He’s very active in the community. I feel like if they don’t listen to him, they’re not going to listen to anybody. So. – Interesting times. – It is. – Let’s jump to cars, ’cause
we were talking about F1. – Yes, yes. – One of your sponsors this
year, that I saw your jersey. And I also saw the car at
the World Cup in the states was a pretty sweet Porsche. So, what was the Porsche that I saw? And tell us about what’s going on, because I know you’re
a pretty big car racer. You and Mark have been at
the track tearing it up. – So, we been in the cars
for probably 10 years or so. And we follow Formula One
off and on quite a bit. Formula One kind of mid to late
2000s was really fun racing to watch and they made some car changes. Hasn’t been as fun and entertaining. But now they’re coming back
to more interesting racing. So, I’ve always followed it. Mark follows it a little
bit more than I do. But we always like it. We like that kind of reasoning. Is just want to watch. I love watching how those
cars get around corners. The driver dynamics, just
like the team tactics. Like, that’s interesting to me. Got into doing tractors at the track. And then, we ended up
buying our friends BMW M3, like an E36 M3 that was
really fun of the track. And what you do a couple of
track days in a fast car, you just want to do more
and you want a faster car. And so, after that we bought
a BMW 1M which is a limited edition model of BMW,
which we absolutely love. We drove that were
autocross and track days. We never did any open wheel,
like wheel to wheel racing just because we don’t
have pockets that day. (man laughing) Talk about
bike racing being expensive. Try to do that, brakes and tires alone doesn’t even bring into like the car as well if you wreck it. Within a budget, we enjoyed
that and we still do. So, we just recently sold the BMW 1M, as well as we had a newer model
M3 that we got too to drive. We sold both those cars and
we got a Porsche Cayman GT4 which is a 2016. It’s an amazing car. But all kind of came together
because Porsche Colorado Springs came on the sponsor this year too. Between them as a
sponsor selling the BMWs, we were able to get a really
sweet car that’s ours. It just worked out. So now, we use it as, like when we got autocross
and to track days, it’s a different community of people that are interested in what I do. The see the car, and they see the wrap they see the sponsors,
and ask about bike racing. So is completely different
population of people to kind of get involved with,
which even like driving. So, I drove across country
to the first two World Cups, at the gas station, random
guys at the gas station was just like, what is that car? Where are you going? What are you doing? And I said, and I talked to them about it. And there like, oh,
that’s really interesting. – Where are you headed? – Exactly. It is like, I feel like the elevator
conversation you can have with somebody who’s
like, how do I get people interested in bike racing? It brings up the subject conversation You can see what the sponsors
are and what you’re doing. There like, oh, I may take that out or is on NBC Gold one day where
they’re flipping channels, it’s like, wait a second. I heard about this. – Everyone’s in new cars.
– It’s a new fan may be. Yes. And everybody’s in a car. As they understand cars, – Good tactic. – Yeah. – Did you have a car race
at the cyclocross race? – Yeah. (laughs) – Now were talking. – I feel like as long as Tim
Johnson away from our car, (group laughing) – I’ll give you that. – He’s definitely not. (laughs) Give him like, a little GTI or something. We can drive away from him. (laughs) Oh, he’s a pretty good driver. So, so he can do a number with a GTI. – All right. So, I’m going to just
ask one last question it is kind of my end of the interview. Then I have little segment
called getting to know– – Oh, those are always fun. – Yeah. So, there’s going to be
some hypotheticals in there. So, I’m going to give you some scenarios. ‘Cause I want people to be
able to know who you are. – All right. I was asked what race
you think in your career. Was the one that you look
back on so far that you had, that you either one or did well, and you’re like, that one probably. And there can be more than one. – Actually two stand out in my career. One of them was actually Paralympics, and is still my favorite event ever. And then the other one,
also the cyclocross one was the Rome World Cup. And I think it was 2014. 13 or 14 when I. I had one the last World Cup. I had won that race as well as the overall World Cup that day. And then I think it was 2013. So it’s going back to
Louisville for worlds. So mainly, Rome is because
it rained overnight. And so I dry course turned into like, it kind of slippery mud race. Mariannne was there too and
I rode her off my wheel, and I won the race. It was one of those like, good days, legs felt great, won
the race, won the World Cup. It’s just that, And then finally back at Louisville and getting second at worlds too, it was like a really
fun finish the season. So that race, Rome World Cup
is still one of my favorites. And then when I was racing
on the Paralympic team for one of the blind
atheletes, our final pursuit ride in Athens at the Paralympic games, we set a world record. And it’s one of those races where, pursuers will understand
how great it feels to hit your lap times consistenly in a pursuit, and then also get faster in
the last three to four laps, and that’s what we did. We hit our marks to the
10th, every single lap. Consistent, and then at the end, the coach is like, just go for it. And so, every that was faster. And that feeling to cross line, we won the gold medal, set a world record and had a wonderful ride. That feeling sticks with me because it was one of my favorites. So there’s two for sure. – All right. So let’s hop into. Thank you for that. Let’s hop into getting
to know Katie Compton. So again, I’m going to put
out some hypotheticals. – Okay.
– This is supposed to be fun. (Katie laughing) None of these are real-life scenarios. – By they’re hypotheticals. So they could be real. – That’s right. So, your dream car company Porsche decides to sponsor you
outright, like corporate. – Like, whatever car I can
get, as many as I want? – And the CEO challenges
you to track race. You know they’re good driver. Do you, A, do you go in and do you just smash them? You know you’re good,
and whatever their CEO, man, female, doesn’t matter. You go in and you smash them, that’s A. B, you go light, like
you don’t want to be up on them too bad. You know what I mean? Or C, rip it superhard. Show them how nasty you are, but then kind of fake a
mechanical at the end. Okay. Just to get people to know kind of your mindset a little bit.
– I get a win, honestly. And honestly, if it’s a CEO, they’re fighters, they’re winners. They’re in that position for a reason. So they’re just as competitive. – So, you sugar cyclocross instincts. – For sure. (man laughing) And I definitely drive that 4S as best as I could possibly do. (man laughing) – Okay, all right. So another one. Okay. So, you’re at a prestigious award show at the end of the Belgium
cyclocross season. You been invited to the
Belgium commencement. Okay. The commentator is not
a part of cyclocross, like they’ve hired him in. He’s is kind of like a big
name above, but he’s not, He reads her name as Katie (beep) Compton, but he immediately thinks
as a genuine mistake, that is Katie Frenches Compton. (Katie laughing) which is French fries for
anyone that doesn’t know. Do you, A, throw your drink in his face, B, you laugh with him and
say that you love Frenches, or do you, C, plainly
grab the mic and say, it’s Katie (beep) Compton? – Oh, I’m torn between
what I want to do with C. C is like, the Marquis
brain and we would be like, I want that option. But realistically, I would probably do B. Just because I’m just
like, oh, right in front of a lot of people. It is probably not appropriate behavior. But C is what I really like to do. – Okay. All right, all right. Okay, last one. Just try to get to know you. You’re winning a World Cup,
like modern day, right now. You’re winning a World Cup. But you’re going to the pit. You’re going as hard as you can. You’re in a pack. It’s going down. You look over in the
pit into your surprise, you see Mark and he had like from another, like other teams have
got Mark in a headlock. They got him pinned down, and you’re like, So, do you A, you drop your bike? Come over get onto the course
and barricades and WWE style, just dropping up on someone? Do you, B, show encouragement
to Mark and keep racing, and then there’s C, just
pretend like you didn’t see it. – First, I would make
sure that there is a bike I could actually change in the cross so I don’t get disqualified. But honestly, I just let
Mark take care of it. As long as I got a new bike to get on, I would just be like, blinders
like I didn’t even see it. Pretend like nothing’s happening. Grab my bike and go on a bike race. (man laughing) And then after the fact, be
like dude, what happened? If he’s not in the hospital. (Katie laughing) But honestly, if it comes to that, Mark and get a little bit
aggro when he wants to. – You got to have sharp
elbows in the pits anyways. So, he’s prepared is what you’re saying. – Yeah. He’s pretty polite and
understanding when he needs to be. But if you for some off, he
will put you in your place. Whether his physical strength
will be able to back that up, I don’t know. But the anger and just
the mental sarge, be like, I’m taking care of this. – Deep down, I really would
love to see the show where you, the barricade with elbow. – With a, just WWF. – Yeah, just zigzag right onto somebody. – Honestly, if I get disqualified. If the officials wouldn’t
just throw us forever, it would be pretty funny. – See, that would be a good story. That would go down in the history books. Like Sfen Neese chasing Nick a beer. – Yeah, like you deserved it for sure. – He deserved it. Exactly. – That was actually fun spin moment, because I’m just like, good on you. I think Sfen put up with it
for one or two laps at the end. No, I’m done. You’re not going to treat me that way. – That’s right. – Yeah. And the kid was
like, deer in the headlights, like oh god, I didn’t realize
this was going to happen. – That’s what I have here for you, Katie. Thank you for your time today. Thank you so much. Good luck with the rest of the season. – Thank you. – And yeah. Thank you so much for being on the show. – Thanks, it’s been fun. – What a awesome conversation
we had with Katie Compton. That was super fun for me. I hope you guys enjoy it as well. Those questions at the
end, had me laughing as you could tell from the interview. Such a pleasure to be able to
get to spend time with her. So, I want to thank you all for listening. If you haven’t yet, wherever
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